Again, James McAoy (a post and responses from IMDb) -- Part 2

My friend, you do realize that you started the attack, right? Perhaps some of the responses were a little pointed, but you put us all on the offensive in your original post by assuming that we were all a bunch of drooling teenage girls with nothing more intelligent to say than "shut the *beep* up". That's a fairly insulting comment to make to an entire population of JM fans. Furthermore, you used inflammatory language, which of course is going to ignite some harsh responses. Right out of the gate you called him a tool, on his own message board! Did you really not expect that to elicit some impassioned posts? The thing is, I think you are actually sincere in your first two posts, however you're confusing your questions. You asked us what it was about this guy. We answered. And had you asked us why he was being cast in so many leading roles, we would have answered that question appropriately as well. And the answers would not have been along the lines that you assume, i.e. "he's smart and charming and passionate and sincere and his beautiful blue eyes..." The answers would have been that he is extraordinarily talented and capable of playing varied roles of extreme complexity. Once again, you have insulted the women of this board by assuming that we would not answer your post as intelligently as we have answered this one. And as far as the "when he cries, I cry" comment, she needs no therapist. Do you not think that the mark of an excellent actor is being able to make the audience believe and empathize with the character being played? As for no actor being so frequently cast in a leading role, do you not remember a few years ago when you couldn't turn around without another Jude Law movie being released? Please do not misunderstand me. I am by no means comparing JM to JL. I am simply giving you a name since you couldn't come up with one. And, in many of JM's interviews he has stated that he has auditioned for every single role that he has ever received. Obviously, directors, producers and the powers-that-be see something in him, and I imagine that it would be his tremendous skill. You've admitted to his acting abilities. Surely, then, you can understand why he is becoming so widely seen.


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I made the original post because I have been seeing a lot of this guy lately, and I came here to say that I don't understand why he is being cast in so many movies. But when I saw post after post after post talking about "Oh my God he's so dreamy!" "The greatest actor since Olivier" "Is there anything he can't do" "I went to the premiere of Wanted and James looked at me and I creamed my jeans" I felt compelled to ask what the hell?
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(response) What the hell what? You sound as if you feel personally offended by James' success, or by people who like him. What's the problem with "Oh my god he's so dreamy!" posts? First and foremost, I think James should be respected for his wonderful acting abilities. But if someone comes here to say he's dreamy, or gorgeous, or whatever, it won't offend me. I know that the majority of posters here admire him mostly because of his talent, but why must you feel offended and "wanting to throw up" because some people (and not only women, mind you) also appreciate his looks? Get over yourself. You're the one being offensive. First you assumed that the posters here were a bunch of idiotic and mindless fangirls. When people responded you respectfully, or offered their own opinions as to why they like James, you turned into ironic mode and singled out and offended a poster, something totally uncalled for. So, if James and his fans really get on your nerves so much, go and have a conversation with your girlfriend who hates James with a passion, bash him and his fans all you like, and maybe you'll feel relaxed and content in the end. It'll be a good therapy for you.

i'm going to throw in my two cents and answer your question...why is mcavoy being cast for everything. no i'm not going to say because he's talented, cute, dreamy, blah, blah, blah. i'm going to tell you how the industry works and you can ask anyone in the entertainment industry and they'll agree with me. mcavoy will continue to get leading roles because his movies have since been successful. whether monetarily or not his movies gets awards and awards buzz. as suggested, after the success of wanted, he will be offered tons more roles. mcavoy has said himself that he HAD to audition for ALL of his previous movies, INCLUDING wanted. he has NEVER been offered a movie part right off the bat. after the success of wanted, yeah they'll be going. mcavoy sign on for this movie, sign on for that movie, etc. the movies that he has since been cast in have just happened to open around the same time. NOT his fault. blame that on the studios. i can guarantee you that a period drama, a drama, or some type of war movie will open in the fall because of consideration for the awards season. any sci-fi, action, or big budget blow up movie will open mid spring or summer. if a movie opens in the month of feb or march the studios DO NOT expect the movie to be any good. those two months are the dreaded months for a movie release. if wanted opens up this weekend to be #1 or brings in millions, than mcavoy will be asked to do movies that he does not have to audition for. there was already a good reviews buzz on the movie so studio heads are already thinking..."this guy can open a movie" and dollar signs will be in their eyes. it has nothing to do with talent, it has nothing to do with good looks, it HAS to do with how well he makes at the box office. and a lot of studios are also looking at his body of work. TWO out of FIVE of his films have been nominated for numerous awards. these films might not have brought in a ton of cash but guess what, people were like oscar, baftas, golden globe...i'm going to check it out and there you have it. honestly this is how an actor gets work. they audition for EVERYTHING. and it is just the luck of the draw that they have a success. brad pitt(thelma and louise), jessica alba (dark angel), angelina jolie (gia), ed norton (primal fear), and the list goes on. hollywood takes notice and then continues from there. i hope i answered your question intelligently and given you an insight on how an actor gets hired.

>Although I wasn't too upset by that one because it was made by a woman whose post makes her sound borderline insane. "When James laughs, I laugh, when James cries I cry, his acting leaves me breathless..." and so on. Jeez, get a therapist. Your life revolves around a celebrity who doesn't even know you exist.< _______________________________________________________________________________ (response) Dude, just a helpful hint, the above attitude is something you might want to work on around women, and I'm not attacking when I say that. The woman was opening up about how McAvoy makes her feel when he's acting, you're statement just invalidated what she is feeling. That's not a cool thing to do around women. In case you want to be more popular around us, it would be wise to learn to just smile or stay quiet when someone expresses how they feel. In the long run it will win you over more popularity around women. Plus, I'm sure the poster is aware that McAvoy doesn't know who she is, and I'm sure she has a life outside of his movie world, she's just excited about someone she admires, and there's no harm in that. It's the same thing as you getting excited over a "car" say. To me it's an object, big deal, but you have your reasons, so I'll be excited for you too. By the way, I don't think that McAvoy was a "better" actor than Whitaker in LKoS, I think they were on the same level. In fact the whole cast was amazing. It is my favourite movie so far. Anyway, I commend you for posting and wanting to discuss a topic. At least you tried to explain your thoughts, compared to some who just make statements like "he's a loser" without any supporting argument.

einhander, you start a whole post wondering why james mcavoy is so greatly adrmired when you find that he doesn't deserve it. it seems like this is not only james mcavoy however. After a while i got the feeling that this whole "james mcavoy" title was code name for the word "celebrity". Now, i'm not trying to crack on you or be negative or anything. I'm a pretty blunt person so i may come off as something negative but i'm not really trying to be. i'd like to know what you feel about media and celebrity stardom. I have a feeling that knowing your opinion about it will just about clear this whole thing up because from your posts it seems that you think the enitre idea is stupid. As for my opinion on james mcavoy, not only is he one of the most convinving actors i've seen on screen, he's gorgeous. I say this because he is actually my personal type. I prefer dudes like him. And with the whole " you haven't met him before so how do you know so much about him' thing- no one knows a celeb, it all comes down to interviews and their work and how they present themselves on television. with james mcavoy, he show himself as a funny, charming anf intelligent man. One thing i have to say is that with all your responses you have another question to ask. you can't grasp the love he is being received by so many and you probably never will. And coming to a message board, hearing a whole bunch of females state various versions of the same reasons they love a guy to *another guy* more than likely won't enlighten you. You're a guy, you're straight and just about the only thing you can admire about another guy is his talent unless you can find within yourself the ability to acknowledge the beauty of another man- you haven't proven to me that you can. As far as your feelings on James' appearance, it goes with females too. You might feel that a female isn't attractive and other males will. it's just a matter of taste. And now that I think of it, this WHOLE THING is a matter of taste. And by the way, i hate that you feel a teenager would give an unintelligable response. I actually am a teenager and if you knew me and how i debate or give an opinion, you would know that "shut the *beep* up" isn't used at all in my responses. Don't stereotype.

OP, let's face it - you came on this board with many prejudices and we're unlikely to change your mind. McAvoy is a fantastic actor who captivates with every performance, and has remained down-to-earth despite achieving a higher level of fame and gaining critical plaudits. We base our opinion of McAvoy on his acting, his own words and his actions. They all tell of, for lack of a better phrase, a nice young man. The discussion could have continued in an intelligent way, but then you went and insulted a member of this board. I agree fully with Kingpin - McAvoy draws you in; you care about the character. This is due to the strength of McAvoy's performances, not what style his hair happens to be at the time. If everyone who is affected by an actor's performance needs therapy, there'd be a hell of a lot less people around, as we'd all be lying on a couch somewhere begging to be 'cured' of empathy. If nothing else, you can at least be happy that JM is taking a break from acting for a while, as he has been working almost non-stop. I'm sure another 'undeserving' and 'ugly' actor will pop up in his place so you can toddle over to their board, and leave us with our back-catalogue of JM films. "My motto is - Fags and weed, glue and speed, but I draws the line at crack."


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Well, I have to stop posting now eventhough this post's soooo interesting and is the most intelligent and sensible post I'd ever seen. Hope I would back and keep watching. Haha~